Nostrae Aetate

Oct. 1965 On non Christian Religion

**What is below is my shorthand mixed with my own thoughts. This post is a note/thought dump and may not make sense! If I can clarify anything, please let me know so I can edit/explain further.**

If you're non-Catholic, can you be saved? Baptism of desire...
(explicit) Unity to the Church by explicit desire (catechists)
(implicit) What about all the New World before the missionaries came bringing the Gospel? What about their ancestors? Was there salvation for them? Well yes, there could be, but supernatural Faith, Hope, and Charity would be needed when you die. Underlying theme of how you can say others in different religions can be saved.
Invincible ignorance- vincible is willful. If you took the necessary means you could know the truth, then it is not invincible. (Like if you choose not to read Card. Hoyos's declaration on whether the SSPX is schismatic, you are not left in invincible ignorance.) But if you lived in a jungle and no missionaries have come to your tribe yet, then you can claim it.
Invincible doesn't save, it just excuses guilt. But God still gives them grace to do good, and avoid evil. Friendship between Christians, that is men of good will.
Community- organization of man. But should we have one community? No! There shouldn't be a one-world religion that compromises so everybody can worship together. "Quest for God?" Excuse me, God has already revealed the Faith, we don't have to search for anything. (but its true, you can still grow, if that's what you mean by "quest")
This document talks about "one human race" with "one common destiny" and "exist in peace" (a peace without truth.) Mutual appreciation of different religions. What about St. Boniface, who desecrated the pagan's holy groves by chopping a tree down himself? St. Justin Martyr gets brought up. But, is this mutual appreciation what St. Justin martyr talked about when he spoke of seeds of the Gospel? Other non-Christians are now having "authentic religious experiences leading them to Catholicism. (yeah, maybe the Anglican bishops, but that's more intellectual and less "emotional." I don't see many Buddhists packing the parish seats after they reach enlightenment. There is a basis in common, sure. They are pretty nice to their neighbor. But that can be natural. They deny the supernatural. Pope Benedict says that St. Justin was talking about philosophy, NOT RELIGION in his series that made him a doctor of the Church, okay, but that's not like the council taught. Other religions are not fruits of the "search for Truth."
Science says primitive religion was monotheistic. The more you advance, the further you get away from one God, though. Starts with Hinduism. They haven't discovered any divine mystery. It says they worship God, free from the illusions of this world.There is no condemnation of anything false. Buddhism can strive to obtain the enlightened one. St. Francis Xavier went to Sri Lanka. He converted the little Hindus and told them o go destroy the temple. Because that was true Ecumenism.
Lets just leave them in invincible ignorance. Do religions lead you to God? Away? In history, saints destroyed everything they could get there hands on. The Catholic rejects other religions. The gods of other religions are fallen angels. They deceive. the Church sent missionaries against their "better judgement" (they knew they would probably die) to convert the natives. BECAUSE OTHER RELIGIONS DONT SAVE.

Even if a cookie is 99% good, and 1% poison, it will still kill you. Just like if a false religion is almost there, but they still deny Christ, it will still send you to Hell. The document talks about preserving some of the cultural influence. Well, St. Pius X says the Catholic culture is superior to others. Vatican II has a high regard for Muslims? Bl. Urban II waged a war on them! St. Catherine of Sienna called them "infidel dogs" and supported the Crusades. St. Joan of Arc did, too. Muslims worship a God who "has spoken to man" in the Koran. No condemnation of any falsity. They believe in Jesus, but not as God. Yet they worship a god without the second Person of the Trinity. (in alms, fasting, prayer, sometimes even invoke the Blessed Virgin Mary.(I don't remember why I wrote this. Maybe the Muslims do?)) St. Bernard of Clairvaux preached the necessity of the Second Crusade, But John Paul II apologizes for it.
The Document is only on how other religions unite. Not how they are wrong. The Church is a Mystery (see last blog, yeah, back to that again.) We are all linked by "spiritual ties." God revealed the truth to the Jews in sight of Christ. If we draw from the original 12 disciples (pretty much all Jews) we get the Truth. But now is not the time to draw anything from the Jews or Gentiles. St. Peter and St. John went into the temples, but why? God still loves them! He pushes them towards the Church, but now, their rites are no longer a valid means. They even think they cannot enter heaven because their has been no savior. Just like we are wounded by Adam's sin, Jews are caught up in their curse. "Let His blood be on us and our children." True, they are not personally responsible for for the actual crime.

So are we not supposed to persecute anybody anymore? What about Communism? What about the Nazi SS after the war? Yeah, well they actually committed crimes against humanity! Ecumenical Council Lateran IV forbids Jews from holding office. That is punishment for them committing the Crime against Humanity. The Fourth Lateran Council also says that Jews must be marked if in public to be kept separate. That's your Faith, ladies and gentlemen. As a Catholic, you must believe what this council binds and what it condemns. Don't talk to me about Vatican II if you're not willing to talk about Lateran IV. And Lateran IV was a doctrinal council. Vatican II is Pastoral, what ever that means (it means it doesn't bind.)

The Church reproves to the mind of Christ the discrimination or harassment of any man. This is Rejection of everything taught before.

St. Boniface, pray for us,
St. Justin Martyr, pray for us,
St. Francis Xavier, pray for us,
St. Pius X, pray for us,
Bl. Urabn II, pray for us,
St. Catherine of Sienna, pray for us,
St. Joan of Arc, pray for us,
St. Bernard of Clairvaux, pray for us,
St. Peter, pray for us,
St. John, pray for us.